Thailand

[Prawn_86]

The Kingdom of Thailand is an independent country which lies in the heart of Southeast Asia. The country is bordered to the north by Laos and Burma, to the east by Laos and Cambodia, to the south by the Gulf of Thailand and Malaysia, and to the west by the Andaman Sea and Burma. By the maritime boundary, the country is bordered to the southeast by Vietnam in the Gulf of Thailand, to the southwest by Indonesia and India in the Andaman Sea.

The capital and largest city of Thailand is Bangkok. It is also the country's centre of political, commercial, industrial and cultural activities. Bangkok is known in Thai as "Krung Thep Mahanakorn," or, more colloquially, "Krung Thep."

[chrissylewis03]

Hi everyone,

me and a few friends are going to Phuket in July and was just wondering if anyone had any previous experiences or tips as to where to go and what to do?

cheers,

Chrissy

[Prawn_86]

We went to Thailand when i was younger.

When up to Kanchanaburi, which is where the infamous bridge on the river Kwai was built during the second world war by the captured prisoners of war, in horrendous conditions. The war museum and graveyards there are quite humbling

[kennas]

Not done the west coast of the beachy part, but been to Koh Samui, Koh Phan Gang and Koh Toa on the other side. All nice, but from what I've heard the other side is better. Can't miss Crabi....

Chang Mai up north is part of the gringo trail and was nice to visit. I was all templed out by the end though...

If you have the time, I recommend fitting in Siem Reap / Angkor in Cambodia as a short visit, unless you plan to do it some other time. A return trip from Bangkok isn't probably much. Don't bus it, nightmare ....

[chrissylewis03]

there's heaps of places i want to see. like krabi... unfortunately we're only in Phuket for 8 days and that's it (i'm traveling with a uni student so on a budget!) so i will have to stay around that area.

I've heard Phi Phi is really nice but i've also heard that you have to spend a couple of days there... unfortunately i'll only be able to do a day trip.

[kennas]

(i'm traveling with a uni student so on a budget!) You should upgrade from this poor uni student chrissy, especially if he's studying finance. Not much future there...;)

[chrissylewis03]

yeah, i know. i thought for a while he might have potential but with the financial world detiorating i should start looking for a replacement.

poor shaun

[Prawn_86]

AUSTRALIAN tourists are among thousands of people left stranded at Bangkok's main international airport after anti-government protests turned violent.
Eleven people were injured in demonstrations overnight (Australian time). The protesters stormed the terminal in a bid to prevent Thailand's PM from returning to the country after he attended the APEC conference in Peru.


http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,24709183-5014090,00.html

Any thoughts on the above? Is it likely to continue to escalate?

[canaussieuck]

http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,24709183-5014090,00.html

Any thoughts on the above? Is it likely to continue to escalate?
Its a worry mate, we are due to fly into Bangkok and onto Koh Tao on the 7th of January....left wondering what to do.

CanOz

[Prawn_86]

Its a worry mate, we are due to fly into Bangkok and onto Koh Tao on the 7th of January....left wondering what to do.

CanOz

Obviously i dont know the details of your trip, but Phuket airport is still up and running for now.

But even so if it spills over into violence Thailand might be best avoided for a few months.

Anyone elses thoughts?

[Prawn_86]

PASSENGER flights are expected to resume at Bangkok's international airport on Friday after anti-government protesters ended their action following a court decision in which the country's prime minister was ousted.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24744179-401,00.html

Good news for anyone there/going there. I wonder if any further demonstrations will occur

[Prawn_86]

Its a worry mate, we are due to fly into Bangkok and onto Koh Tao on the 7th of January....left wondering what to do.

CanOz

Made a decison yet Canoz?

Perhaps if you havnt already booked your accomodation it could be cheaper according to this:

HOTEL occupancy across Thailand has plunged to an average of about 20 to 30 per cent after protests closed Bangkok's two airports.

Occupancy is normally at least 65 per cent in December, one of the key months in Thailand's tourist high season.

"We expect the December average occupancy will be only between 20 to 30 per cent. As of now, some five-star hotels in Bangkok have reported an occupancy rate of less than 10 per cent," said Thai Hotels Association chief, Prakit Chinamourphong.


http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,,24789078-5009000,00.html

[Prawn_86]

Thailand cant seem to cop a trick at the moment:


AT least 59 people have been killed and 184 injured in a fire at a Bangkok nightclub where revellers were celebrating the new year.
Some victims died in a stampede after the fire broke out at the Santika club on Ekkamai, a street popular with Thai and foreign partygoers

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24861926-401,00.html

[Prawn_86]

We are heading to Phuket in July this year. Does anyone have any must do's there?

Also are there any nice fine dining places in Phuket? As i havn't heard of any

[kennas]

We are heading to Phuket in July this year. Does anyone have any must do's there?

Also are there any nice fine dining places in Phuket? As i havn't heard of anyKrabi, Koh Phi Phi I suppose.

Maybe play some ping pong.

[Prawn_86]

Krabi, Koh Phi Phi I suppose.

Maybe play some ping pong.
Yeh we had Phi Phi on our list for a day trip.

Ping pong is also under consideration... ;)

[Umike]

We are heading to Phuket in July this year. Does anyone have any must do's there?

Also are there any nice fine dining places in Phuket? As i havn't heard of any
DO atleast a few Island day trips.

Dinning anywhere and everywhere is fine.

A highlight can be driving down to Krabi (motorbike or car) and the breathtaking views of the limestone mountains as you go over each one.

Krabi's stayable for a night or 2.

We'll be in Thialand for over a month Staying mainly in Chiang Mai all of April (Song Karn).
For something different we are gonna go to Laung Prabang (sp) for 4 days 3 nights

[Prawn_86]

Thanks Mike :)

We have an elephant ride day trip planned and most probably a day night trip to Phi Phi, so i guess we'll just see what else we decide when we get there

[Umike]

We are going and coming back a bit before you so I'll 'ave ta submit a trip report.

(We are only going to BKK -> Pattaya :ROLL: -> Chaing Rai -> Lauang Prabang(sp) (in Laos) via the river and back -> Chaing Mai for Song Kran -> Ubon to make merit and see the Family -> back to Melb)

[chrissylewis03]

Hi guys,

can someone let me know what some good markets are in Bangkok? i don't want anything too touristy, trying to stay away from overpriced souvinires or anything too scary....

any ideas?

cheers.

[GlennR]

Took the family to Phuket July 2007, stayed at the Holiday Inn Patong Beach great place for a family and couples, good food at the nightly buffets.

Molly Malloy's on the beach served up big portions of great food, also ate at a Italian Restaurant just off the beach (forget the name) food was good there also.

Prawn you must get a oil massage but leave the boss at the hotel ;)

Went to the biggest jewellery factory shop I've ever seen at Phuket Town just few km from Patong, just get a Tuk Tuk (Jap ute with seats in the back) to get around but negotiate the price first.

We had a 1 hour Elephant ride which was long enough believe me, don't visit the Zoo it was disgusting and quite sad.

We did some horse riding on the beach just a bit north of Patong (I forget the name) they pick you up from the hotel.

Of course getting a temporary tattoo or you hair braided is quite the norm on Patong beach along with jetski hire, para sailing, also the hawkers try and sell you clothes, bags etc on the beach but a polite no thanks and they go away.

We will return one day but we have China and Vietnam to see first in the future.

[Prawn_86]

Went to the biggest jewellery factory shop I've ever seen at Phuket Town just few km from Patong, just get a Tuk Tuk (Jap ute with seats in the back) to get around but negotiate the price first.


Do you know what this place was called? (or is it easy to find out about over there?) And are the stones real or are they fakes? I would have no idea how to tell if i was getting ripped off or not...

[GlennR]

I can't remember the name I'll ask my boss tonight and get back to you and no it was all fair dinkum and you get a personal guide/escort after you finish your drink at the welcome bar

[KevinRB]

Hi

I am new to the forum, I live in Chiang Mai, Thailand and am very happy to help with any queries or questions about either my city or Thailand in general, I have travelled around the Kingdom a considerable amount, so I should be a good resource for the forum visitors.

Regards

Kevin:)

[Prawn_86]

Welcome to ATF Kevin, good to have you on board :)

As you may have read, we are going to Phuket in July. I know its a fairly tousity area, but are there any 'must see's' from a local perspective?

[KevinRB]

Hi

Happy to oblige with a few tips for Phuket, yes the whole island is very touristy, most Western tourists can be found around the Patong Beach & Karon Beach area. This is where you will find the heaviest concentration of hotels, resorts & restaurants, also LOTS of girly bars on the streets just behind the beachfront !!.

Personally I cannot stand being overwhelmed by Western tourists, and I avoid this area like the plague !!. I much prefer the north-eastern beaches of Nai Yang & Mai Khao which are much quieter, traditional Thai beaches, the beaches are fantastic, with lots of great quality cheap Thai food, the nightlife around this area is not much, but its just got a certain magic about it that the southern beaches have lost due to the complete development of the areas.

Wherever you are staying, a MUST VISIT place is Promthep Cape, which is the southernmost tip of Phuket, arrive there 45 minutes BEFORE sunset, the views are fantastic & the sunset is quite stunning - NOTE: obviously choose a sunny day for this visit, but beware this sunset is so famous on Phuket that the place is always absolutely mobbed, so allow extra time & arrive early.

In terms of other things to see, if you hire a car, you can get out up into the hills that still remain jungle on Phuket, but to be honest there is not a lot else to do, for the BEST places, you have to leave Phuket and travel to the Phi Phi Islands, Krabi, Koh Lantra or the Similan Islands, all can be reached from Phuket, and ALL are stunningly beautiful, the finest beaches, lovely blue seas, and lots of deserted islands to explore.

My personal recommendation would be to use Phuket as a base to explore the whole southern peninsula from, but I would not be tied to just Phuket.

I do hope this information has been useful to you, and I am really happy to help further with any feedback or questions received.

Regards

Kevin:)

[chrissylewis03]

Thanks Kevin that was fantastic! I'm really looking forward to it now!

I asked earlier but no one replied but do you know of any good markets in Bangkok, something more traditional?

Cheers,

Chrissy

[KevinRB]

Hi Chrissy

Good Morning

Bangkok doesn't lack for markets, and they are generally the cheapest places to shop. This doesn't necessarily reflect on the quality of the goods sold either, and some excellent bargains are for the taking in Bangkok if you know where to look.

Chatuchak Market(J.J.Market) is the largest in Thailand and probably the best of the lot, but there are many more, it opens only on Saturday & Sunday .

Patpong Night Market is very popular with tourists, but there's no real reason why. It's got the same combination of souvenirs, fake brand name items and cheap clothes as in any tourist area in the city, but prices here are considerably higher, and require "hard negotiation" to get them down to the "real price" !!. Patpong is between Silom and Surawong roads, and any taxi driver will know it.

Pratunam Market is open 24hrs a day and is situated by the intersection of Ratchaprarop and Phetburi (Phetchaburi) roads, close to the Amari Watergate hotel. This is a great market notably as the best place in Bangkok to buy cheap clothes, fabrics and textiles - wholesalers and exporters buy here, as well as individual consumers.

Bai Yoke Market in the same area as Pratunam sells the same sort of thing. As well as the market, there are many clothes and textile shops in this area. A little down Phetburi road is the Nai Loet Market a kind of scaled down Chatuchak. If you've already been to Chatuchak there's little point in coming here as the goods on offer are similar, but it's worth a visit if you can't make it up to Chatuchak market proper

Banglamphu Market is a large market that extends over Phra Sumen road, Chakrapong road and others nearby. Despite it's proximity to touristy Khao San road, this is still mainly a market frequented by locals to buy clothes, household accessories etc...There's a separate market on Khao San road itself, which sells anything the foreign backpacker could need including backpacks, stereos, pirate CD's, books, clothes, traveling accessories.

Not far away is Bo-Be Market, located where Khlong Saen Saep meets Krung Kasem road, a wholesale clothes and textiles market with cheap prices.

Pak Khlong Market is a very large and busy wholesale market for fresh flowers and vegetables. Many flower vendors throughout the city buy their stock here at night and sell it on the following morning. It's best to go between 2.00am and 4.00am when boats on the Chao Phraya River and trucks from nearby provinces arrive with large quantities of flowers, vegetables, spices, and fruits. These all are piled high inside the market and along nearby streets, making the market very photogenic, though the smell given off by some off the produce can be quite overpowering.The market takes place where Khlong Lawt meets the Chao Phraya river, next to the Memorial Bridge on the northeastern edge of Chinatown.

Should keep you busy for a few days & nights !!.

Regards

Kevin:)

[Prawn_86]

Wow Kevin, that info is amazing.

Can i ask if you are actually Thai yourself? Or if you moved there from another country?

[KevinRB]

Hi

Good Morning

No, I originate from the U.K., I bought a house on Koh Samui around 8 years ago, having visited the Kingdom on several occasions, and when an opportunity arose to work in southern China, I grabbed it and "commuted" for a couple of years between China & Koh Samui.

I first visited Chiang Mai in late 2005 on a short business visit, immediately fell in love with its charm, the beautiful surroundings & the warmth of the people, and decided immediately to leave China & Koh Samui for a new life up in the north of Thailand.

Since then I have basically taken it easy right up until December 2008 when I decided to start a website all about Chiang Mai with an online shop linked to it, promoting the artisan handicrafts that Chiang Mai is so famous for.

I always try to help people whenever I can, and believe that the internet as a "vehicle" is truly wonderful, and that "information, information, information" is the only way to succeed on the internet, which is why my answers to any forum questions will be comprehensive, I can't change the habits of a lifetime!!.

Kind Regards

Kevin:)

[Prawn_86]

Hi Kevin,

Good to hear you found a place you enjoy living. When i was younger I travelled up through Kanchanaburi and surrounds. I can remeber certain elements, like the bridge over the River Kwai, but was young so my memory isnt the best.

We would love to go up through Northern Thailand again, starting in Bangkok and working our way up, but that is for another time. Phuket in July for us, just more as a boozing holiday with friends, but we have an elephant trek and a day trip to Phi Phi planned as you have already suggested.

Feel free to share your experiences of other countries also if you like and if you have any suggestions for this site you can let us know here:
http://www.aussietravellersforum.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=40

[Prawn_86]

This story has created a bit of media attention here in Aus:


Mrs Smoel, from Montrose, in east Melbourne, has been stranded in Thailand for 17 days, charged with the theft of a bar mat from The Aussie Bar. Thai police said she was drunk and abusive, but she denied the claim and said police acted only because "we were women on our own".


http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,25510657-27977,00.html

Not really sure what to think of this myself. When in a country you should obey that countries laws, but five years jail does seem a bit excessive.

What i did find funny was the fact that she complained about the prison conditions

[KevinRB]

Hi

I was following this story on Twitter yesterday, and the interest it created was quite astounding !!. As I mentioned in a previous post, ANYTHING negative about Thailand is jumped upon immediately by the media and exploited, as its popular to bash Thailand currently !!.

The "facts" (I use this term loosely) that I understand are that Mrs Smoel was out celebrating her mothers birthday with some friends, as the night wore on, someone slipped a beermat into her bag as a bit of fun, which was seen by a person who works for the bar. For whatever reason "undercover" Thai police got involved and she was hauled off to jail for theft.

There are lots of different versions of what went on, but my own opinion on this is as follows:

* Thai people are VERY easy going, they do not go out looking for trouble.

* The Thai police can be tricky, but generally again try to avoid getting involved in "farang" issues, as they typically do not speak good English, and its just easier that way(I know this from personal experience having driven extensively throughout Thailand).

* Thai people are very similar to the Chinese when it comes to their culture, and DO NOT like to "lose face", so someone that offends them is going to end up with problems.


I would suggest that having left the bar, maybe a little "worse for wear" Mrs Smoel has offended the officers who then arrested her, she probably carried on being abusive at the police station, and this has consolidated her problem.

Thai courts can be incredibly slow & tedious, but I would think that this will not get to court, the Thai government has enough other "fish to fry" without having further problems with its already seriously diminished tourist industry !!.

Mrs Smoels is likely to be released & deported, not being allowed to re-enter Thailand, I doubt very much that they will go through the motions of convicting her, as it serves no purpose, the publicity generated from this already outweighs the "crime" !!.

I hope my comments do not offend your forum readers, but this is my "farang" take on events, with the understanding I have of Thai people.

Kind Regards

Kevin:)

[Prawn_86]

No offense at all Kevin, thats why this forum is here, to share ideas and opinions :)

I agree that she will be released and deported, and yes it is a shame the fuss kicked up by the media, it seems once they get a hold of a story they milk it for all its worth instead of actually trying to find out the real story.

Its a shame that it has tarnished Thailands reputation but at least it might keep a few of the idiots away...

[Prawn_86]

Well that women who stole the barmats got deported back to Aus after pleading guilty. She says she only pleaded guilty so that way it wouldnt have to go to trial etc.

Just another media beat up imo. I bet there are heaps of cases like this we never even hear of.

[KevinRB]

Hi

I follow Twitter daily for all things "Thai" (its great for traffic building for my website), and yes you get quite a few bizarre stories that go "over the wires".

The biggest problem in most instances is when foreigners(farangs) go to Thailand and think it's an excuse to do things that they would not / or could not do at home !!.

I am not a party-pooper by any stretch of the imagination, but I do have UTMOST RESPECT for the hosts who's hospitality I enjoy on a daily basis !!, and I firmly believe that all visitors to Thailand should show the same respect !!.

Best Wishes

Kevin:)

[Prawn_86]

The media here has unfortunately latched onto the 'stealing' issue and is bagging Thailand a bit. Latest story involves someone who ate donuts in a store while waiting at the counter, before paying for them. This is acceptable here in Aus, but obviously not there.

He was arrested and was not released until he apologised. So As Kevin has mentioned respect is very important for Thai officials and people in general.

[Siamsusie]

G'day Prawn, I have a house in Thailand up in the north by Friendship Bridge (built and paid for by the Australians) which is on the Laos border. I have been in Asia for around since 1986. Have worked in Cambodia, Vietnam, Burma, Laos and Thailand. If any of your readers require any help it will be my pleasure. A great site by the way.
Susie

[Prawn_86]

Hi Susie welcome to ATF :)

Feel free to introduce yourself further here:
http://www.aussietravellersforum.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=1137#post1137

Or browse around and share with us your travel experiences, opinions and the like.

There is also a thread on England here:
http://www.aussietravellersforum.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=13

[Prawn_86]

Well we are heading of to Thailand in under a month.

Just wondering what the prices of things are worth in Baht? Like hw many baht would a cup of coffee or a can of beer cost?

Just trying to get a rough idea so i know how much cash to take.

[KevinRB]

Hi

Good Morning

You are going to the "posh part" of Thailand, so you need to factor approx +20% onto the prices I pay locally here in Chiang Mai:

* large bottle of Singha beer - 50thb
* cup of Thai coffee 30thb - 60thb
* iced Thai tea / coffee - 30thb
* bbq chicken / som tam / pad thai / - 25thb/dish
* litre of diesel 23thb
* litre of petrol 26thb
* 1litre bottle water 10thb
* 325cl can of Pepsi / Coke 10thb

Kind Regards

Kevin:)

[Prawn_86]

Thanks Kevin.

Very informative as always :)

[kennas]

Wow, looks really expensive!! :eek:

;)

[Prawn_86]

I can't remember the name I'll ask my boss tonight and get back to you and no it was all fair dinkum and you get a personal guide/escort after you finish your drink at the welcome bar

Hey Glenn,

Have you managed to find out the name of that jewellery place yet?

[buddinghealth]

Hi

Good Morning

You are going to the "posh part" of Thailand, so you need to factor approx +20% onto the prices I pay locally here in Chiang Mai:

* large bottle of Singha beer - 50thb
* cup of Thai coffee 30thb - 60thb
* iced Thai tea / coffee - 30thb
* bbq chicken / som tam / pad thai / - 25thb/dish
* litre of diesel 23thb
* litre of petrol 26thb
* 1litre bottle water 10thb
* 325cl can of Pepsi / Coke 10thb

Kind Regards

Kevin:)

Got to say that I much prefer Singha beer to Chang - however I found Leo is the cheapest and pretty good. If you fancy a really good (and early) night try LaCao Rice Whisky (not sure how you spell it) - it will knock your head off!

[Prawn_86]

Currently in Phuket typing this. :)

Having a great time here, but it is very touristy. Will do a proper update when we get back

[kennas]

Looking forward to the report Prawn.

I haven't been to the west coast yet. Really want to go to Crabi area one day and dive the reefs off the coast. Supposed to be pretty good but needs to be on a liveaboard I think.

[Prawn_86]

Got back today, after an overnight flight which i slept very little, so over the next few days i will write a journal.

We stayed at the Patong Resort Hotel, which is right next to Patong Tower, which is handy due to the fact that you can use the tower as a bearing when you dont wuite know where you are. Patong Resort Hotel is quite nice, all you can ask for in a hotel really, clean, 2 pools, nice buffet breakfast every morning.

[Prawn_86]

Went to the biggest jewellery factory shop I've ever seen at Phuket Town just few km from Patong, just get a Tuk Tuk (Jap ute with seats in the back) to get around but negotiate the price first.



We went here also, there are two different ones on Phuket island itself, and both are massive

[Prawn_86]

Got back today, after an overnight flight which i slept very little, so over the next few days i will write a journal.


Journal and a few photos can be found here:
http://www.aussietravellersforum.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=206

I have also created a gallery of photos, which i will add more to shortly. Found here:
http://www.aussietravellersforum.com.au/forums/album.php?albumid=7

[buddinghealth]

Do you think Phuket has got worse? i.e. more touristy? i went there for the 2nd time about 6 months ago and thought it had got a bit tacky - might have just been where i stayed though?

[Prawn_86]

Do you think Phuket has got worse? i.e. more touristy? i went there for the 2nd time about 6 months ago and thought it had got a bit tacky - might have just been where i stayed though?

I really cant say as it was my first time there, but just by the number of new apartments that are happening and selling it wouldn't surprise me. It is definitely the most touristy place in Asia i have been to. I dont think thats 'worse' it just offers a different experience

[chrissylewis03]

hey guys,

just came back from phuket and i have to agree, it did get a bit tacky. it was not what i expected from the pics and what you hear from advertising! they don't tell you about the dirty, smelly and sleazy side of it.

on that note though, i don't think i'd change it if i could! isn't that why we travel? to see something completely differant to what we are used to? to eat food we wouldn't think to eat and to buy things we can't get at home?

if you are worried about the dirt and smut though, i would recomend staying outside of Patong. There are heaps of beaches surounding it that aren't as 'crazy'. but if you want to really get away from it and see the phuket that they show in postcards then stay out at Phi Phi for a couple of nights.

Phi Phi is amazing, turquoise waters, amazing surounding islands, great holiday bar on the beach. if i go back to Phuket i am deffinately going to stay out there for a couple of nights. it'll be a great breat from the mainland of Phuket.

I think that's about it but please let me know if you have any questions at all!

cheers.

[fLorentina]

Generally speaking,the best time to visit Thailand is from November to February when the northeast monsoon is blowing cool, dry air which serves as a respite from the heat. During this cool season, the temperature ranges from 18ºC to 32ºC in Bangkok, while in northern and northeast Thailand, temperatures can get quite cool with morning temperatures as low as 8º C to 12º C with the occasional 20º C day. Nights can be particularly chilly and at high altitudes the temperatures can and do drop below freezing.

The summer period, or hot and dry season, is from March to June. At this time temperatures in Bangkok average around 34º C, but can often reach 40º C with the humidity levels of 75%.

Try and avoid April, unless you plan to be permanently submerged in the ocean, because this is the hottest month across the country.

From July to October is the monsoonal season when most of Thailand's annual rainfall is accumulated. The humidity averages just under 90%, with temperatures averaging around 29º C in Bangkok.

The monsoons finish when the wind direction changes, bringing dry weather from the northeast. At best this season can be described as unpredictable and not the constant downpour of rain like you would expect. The middle months of this season may hold particularly heavy rains for the north of the country.

http://www.travelfish.org/thailand-weather.php

[buddinghealth]

What do people think of Bangkok, i've been there a few times and after a few days it gets to me -anyone recommend a guesthouse away from Kao San Road?

[ohannaweb]

Hi,


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Thanks

[kennas]

I strongly disagree.

Anyone can travel to Thailand independantly and have a great time. Just take a guide book, do some research, and be prepared to spend some time finding train and bus stations. The tourist infrastructure is very good.

Your hotel front desk should be the first point of call for information, normally they are very good.

[allprjct]

Thailand is an independent country that lies in the heart of Southeast Asia.

It is bordered to the north by Laos and Burma, to the east by Laos and Cambodia, to the south by the Gulf of Thailand and Malaysia, and to the west by the Andaman Sea and Burma. Its maritime boundaries include Vietnam in the Gulf of Thailand to the southeast and Indonesia and India in the Andaman Sea to the southwest. The capital and largest city of Thailand is Bangkok. It is also the country's center of political, commercial, industrial and cultural activities.

Thanks

[inenigma]

What do people think of Bangkok, i've been there a few times and after a few days it gets to me -anyone recommend a guesthouse away from Kao San Road?

Well, Bangkok's heaps better than it was back in 1999. Doesn't stink as much. We went for three weeks back in September. 17 days in Koh Samui and 4 days in Bangkok. We went up to the tiger temple in Kanchanaburi province. That was awesome.

[jimmyred]

Geckos tours are awesome, especially the hill tribe treks. Phuket and Bangkok are a must despite how touristy Phuket is - its still great for a party

[aimhigh]

Bangkok is one of the mesmerizing destination city in the world that full of life everywhere, vibrant because it offers a feast of attractions to the visitors in the city.

[inenigma]

This is a Buddhist Temple where they are raising orphaned Tigers (and the Tigers in the compound are now breeding as well, so we were told). Just awesome to see so many all at different ages..

Fully Grown
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4826/fullygrown.jpg

Juvenile
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7770/juvenile.jpg

Cubs
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3480/cubs.jpg

[Prawn_86]

Pictures aren't displaying ??? Take a look at my album...

Looking to fix this today for you :)

[inenigma]

Looking to fix this today for you :)

Any joy as yet Shawn ??

[Prawn_86]

Any joy as yet Shawn ??
There we go. I had to upload them into an image host (like imageshack) and then use the URL that gave for it. Not sure why it wasn;t working the other way :)

[inenigma]

In Koh Samui, there's a road that goes from Lamai to Mae Nam over the hills. It's a cement road going up the hill from Lamai. It's a dirt track going down the other side with ravines a metre deep... Very easy to get stuck in the middle of the jungle.... I'd advise to stick to sealed roads in Koh Samui.

[euclid]

People say Thailand simply offers it all to travellers in a neat, great-value package -- whether you're an independent budget backpacker wanting to explore off the beaten track, or a well-heeled tourist looking for an exclusive slice of paradise.

Rough it while trekking through mist-shrouded mountains; be astounded by teeming aquatic life as you plunge into turquoise waters for a dip; or savour a romantic pool villa for a perfect luxury honeymoon -- you can do it all in the Land of Smiles.

[coliek]

just found this forum and thread! Love it!

My husband & I are going to Thailand at the end of April for our delayed honeymoon. We can't wait!

Going to Phuket for 8 nights and Bangkok for 2.

There's so much we want to do/see/eat I can't imagine how we'll ever pack it into 12 days!

I've been reading through everyones posts. Great tips and advice!

Can I ask for people who have been recently, what is the average cost (Baht & AUD)of things such as -

softdrink/water?
beer?
cocktail?
meal?
massage?
clothes?
hats?
shoes?
bags?
hammock/chair on beach?
tuk tuk ride?

Thanks for all the great advice everyone!

[Prawn_86]

Welcome to ATF coliek, im sure you will find our friendly community useful :)

I have put the prices below for Phuket, they are just averages. The prices are in baht and at the moment 1 AUD = 30 baht

Can I ask for people who have been recently, what is the average cost (Baht & AUD)of things such as -

softdrink/water? 10
beer? 60
cocktail? 100
meal? 200pp at an average place
massage? 200 per hour
clothes?
hats?
shoes?
bags? 1000 for a good quality fake
hammock/chair on beach? 100
tuk tuk ride? you negaotiate these depending on distance. If you have a lot of travel to do in a day dont use tuk tuks, get someone with an airtconditioned van to be your driver for the day. Its like 200 for the day. (when i get to work i will see if i have the business card of the guy we used)


Hope that helps

[coliek]

Thanks very much! That was very helpful! Will have an idea of what's 'normal' to pay now.
We just booked our flights yesterday, very excited!

[Prawn_86]

If you get time during or after your trip you can write a journal here (http://www.aussietravellersforum.com.au/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=13).

Also the prices i posted were for Phuket, so depending on where you go in Bangkok they may be different

[chrissylewis03]

i'm so jealous, i would love to go back and especially go through bangkok as we only did phuket! with the prices, keep in mind that if it's not a marked down price then you can bargain for anything. you'll start to get a feel of how things should cost and know when someones trying to rip you off.

also, the prices prawn put up were for phuket which is pretty much the most expensive part of thailand. once you get to bangkok you should find that prices drop significantly. it might be an idea to do your shopping in bangkok.

have fun and put up some pics!!

[inenigma]

Thanks very much! That was very helpful! Will have an idea of what's 'normal' to pay now.
We just booked our flights yesterday, very excited!

Be wary of the scams as there's plenty of them, but, if you're aware of them before hand you can just wave them off. My advice is to do plenty of reading... I would definitely recommend the Tiger Temple as it is such a buzz (see pics above). My 12 yo daughter was scared sh!tless the night before, but, now says that was the highlight of Thailand (as do my wife and I). As a bonus you stop at the Bridge over the River Kwai which I found somewhat moving.....

[inenigma]

just found this forum and thread! Love it!

My husband & I are going to Thailand at the end of April for our delayed honeymoon. We can't wait!

Going to Phuket for 8 nights and Bangkok for 2.

There's so much we want to do/see/eat I can't imagine how we'll ever pack it into 12 days!

I've been reading through everyones posts. Great tips and advice!

Can I ask for people who have been recently, what is the average cost (Baht & AUD)of things such as -

softdrink/water?
beer?
cocktail?
meal?
massage?
clothes?
hats?
shoes?
bags?
hammock/chair on beach?
tuk tuk ride?

Thanks for all the great advice everyone!

Pack the bare minimum.. Buy the rest while you're there.... It's that cheap...

If you're looking for rip-off imitations in Bangkok, you'll need to discuss this with the stall owner as they've begun to clamp down on that in Bangkok and the cheap rip-offs are no longer on open display. My daughter wanted a Louis Vittion bag while we were in Koh Samui, but, my wife and I said to wait until we got to Bangkok (not realising that they had clamped down on that in Bangkok). We eventually got one for her, but, only after we actually talked to a stall owner, as we didn't see any after a full day of looking. Oh, and stay at the stall (street-side), demand that the item be brought to you and do not follow the stall owner thru a maze of alleyways.

Always look after number one and have fun !!!!

[inenigma]

If your vid camera takes specific re-chargable batteries (not commonly available AAA lithium), get a second (or third) backup.... I ran out of battery power (2 fully charged packs) when we went to the Buddhist's Tiger Temple.

[inenigma]

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softdrink/water? cheap. I only used bottled water. Remember that when you're brushing your teeth.
beer? cheap, slightly better than VB
whiskey/rum ?? cheap, unfortunately the big brands aren't cut with speed anymore
cocktail? cheap. Or so the wife tells me
meal? cheap. The wife and daughter got bored of Thai after a bit. I had Thai curry and soup for breakfast everyday and miss it so much.... I am so jealous of you...
massage? cheap and ever so good after walking around shopping with the wife and daughter
clothes? cheap. Pack lightly and bring an empty suitcase (or buy one there). Buy clothes as you need them
hats? Sorry, that's the wife and daughter's department.
shoes? Sorry, that's the wife and daughter's department.
bags? Sorry, that's the wife and daughter's department.
hammock/chair on beach? if you're at a resort, it should be free
tuk tuk ride? be careful and be aware that the driver is scamming you if he/she/it says they know of a jewelery factory having a sale

Thanks for all the great advice everyone!


Hey Shawn,
I entered all the detail above, and when I clicked on submit reply, it told me that the message was too short ??? I would say that's a bug....

[inenigma]

have fun and put up some pics!!

I did.... Have you ????

[coliek]

Thanks everyone for the helpful info! We were thinking of buying a video camera when we get there andjust buying an aussie adaptor for the plug for home. Has anyone bought electrical items there, have you had any problems with them?

Just thought of another question - How much did you live on per day? (not including accomodation, just food/drinks, spending - shopping or tours)
Our accomodation, transfers, and breakfast are all paid for so we only need spending money for lunch, dinner, drinks, tours/attractions & transport to them, and shopping.

[buddinghealth]

Depends on where you are going and what kind of luxury you want - but when I almost ran out of money I found accomodation for 100 baht per night and meals for 30 baht each - but if you go to expensive places which tourists frequent the costs are much higher

[Prawn_86]

Thanks everyone for the helpful info! We were thinking of buying a video camera when we get there andjust buying an aussie adaptor for the plug for home. Has anyone bought electrical items there, have you had any problems with them?

Just thought of another question - How much did you live on per day? (not including accomodation, just food/drinks, spending - shopping or tours)
Our accomodation, transfers, and breakfast are all paid for so we only need spending money for lunch, dinner, drinks, tours/attractions & transport to them, and shopping.
As BH said it really depends where you eat and what sort of tours you are after. When we were there eating at cheap street eats we spent about 800 baht for 6 people, or maybe 1000 - 1200 if we got some lobster.

[danviettravel]

Thailand is a perfect destination for traveling in Asia. There are a lot of attractions that you can spend your time to explore. However the politic problems sometimes happen so you should choose the right time to be there!
Happy Travels!

[Georgi]

Its almost an annual event, so as long as the airport is open tourists should not have much to fear

[Prawn_86]

Tens of thousands of red-shirted Thai protesters have overrun the streets of Bangkok, swarming into the capital's tourist heartland in a renewed bid to overthrow the government.
Bemused foreign visitors looked on as the supporters of fugitive former premier Thaksin Shinawatra occupied a key intersection close to a clutch of five-star hotels, shopping centres and the famous Erawan Shrine.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/03/2863617.htm?section=justin

Lets just hope the protests dont get violent. The Thai economy relies a lot on tourism and it would be a shame to spoil their reputation.

[coliek]

I just got back from Thailand last Friday. We stayed in Phuket and ended up cancelling our Bangkok part of the trip. A few days before we went there was 5 grenade blasts and an Aussie tourist was killed.
The military had blocked off alot of streets and a heap of attractions, hotels & shops had been closed.
We spoke to some other tourists while we were over there who had been to Bangkok in the last few weeks and they said it's better not to go. They had huge delays trying to get anywhere and alot of shopping centres were closed.
In Phuket everything was fine, completely normal and safe.
The Bangkok airport was ok too, still safe and relatively normal.

[Prawn_86]

Things appear to be getting worse in Bangkok now, with about 5 tourists killed and other civilians alos in the escalating fight between the red shirts and the Army.

Im sure other parts of Thailand are still safe, but right now i would avoid Bangkok. Aus government seems to think so too as they have issued a travel wraning.

[Traveller]

Not a good place to be at the moment. DFAT actually issued 2 alerts yesterday. If you are thinking about going to Thailand then definately keep up to date with the latest events: http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/Thailand

[coliek]

I have heard through people that the army reserves have been put on stand by now to go to Thailand and get Aussies out!

[Prawn_86]

Where did you hear this? As far as i know the Thai situation has calmed down a bit now, i have seen very little reposts of violence from there at the moment...

[coliek]

^ from someone who is in the reserves who has been put on stand by to go!

[catvonsmith]

I just spent 2 weeks in Bangkok, Chiang Mai & Chiang Rai in March...I still remember how we spent one night in Bangkok just chilling with my local friends at Central World. Hard to believe that place has been totally destroyed :(
I still love Thailand though, I go back every 3 years!

[jayarr]

Hello everyone,

Is it true that Thailand had the policy that candidates with a recognized bachelor's degree will be subjected to 1 year of full-time service if they picked the random draft, or 6 months if they volunteer at their respective district office (Sasadee).

[Greener]

Hello everyone,

Is it true that Thailand had the policy that candidates with a recognized bachelor's degree will be subjected to 1 year of full-time service if they picked the random draft, or 6 months if they volunteer at their respective district office (Sasadee).

I just talked with my colleague and he said that if you have chosen "military classes" in high school for 3 years, you don't have to go to the random draft.

If you volunteer, you need to go for one year. If you are picked in random draft, you need to do two years, although duration can be different in different units. Draft includes lady boys and monks as well.

[pradap]

We went to Thailand when i was younger.

When up to Kanchanaburi, which is where the infamous bridge on the river Kwai was built during the second world war by the captured prisoners of war, in horrendous conditions. The war museum and graveyards there are quite humbling:):D:o:rolleyes:
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[kennas]

I might be going to Phuket in January.

Any recommendations?

Thinking about staying on Phi Phi, or do we just stay in Phuket and day trip around?

Cheers,
kennas

[Prawn_86]

I might be going to Phuket in January.

Any recommendations?

Thinking about staying on Phi Phi, or do we just stay in Phuket and day trip around?

Cheers,
kennas
Phi Phi is amazing Kennas. If you want to just kick back with a 'proper' island experience do some diving, trip around in the boats.

If you want more touristy experience stay in Phuket itself.

[kennas]

Phi Phi is amazing Kennas. If you want to just kick back with a 'proper' island experience do some diving, trip around in the boats.

If you want more touristy experience stay in Phuket itself.Sounds like Phi Phi is more our style.

Going second week of Jan, I hope the weather is ok then.

Some great flight/accommodation deals going at the moment all around the place!

[Scottys88]

I might be going to Phuket in January.

Any recommendations?

Thinking about staying on Phi Phi, or do we just stay in Phuket and day trip around?

Cheers,
kennas

I was in Thailand earlier this year. Phucket was amazing, I stayed at some ridiculous resort in Patong. Ridiculous as in luxurious I mean. In retrospect a cheaper hotel would have suffice. Day trips are so easy from Patong in Phucket because of the abundance of tour operators and Tuk Tuk drivers.

[Taverner6]

Hi all,

I'm planning a trip to Thailand mid February. Could anyone please advise a good and reliable hotel booking website?

I've already booked my flights with Qantas but has been quite hesitant about acommodation.

Any ideas anyone?

Cheers!

[brook00]

Thailand is awesome! We've been to crocodile shows and elephant shows. The holy temples and the buddhas are amazing too. Wish I could go back there so I could visit more of the beautiful places and resorts.

[buddinghealth]

Hi all,

I'm planning a trip to Thailand mid February. Could anyone please advise a good and reliable hotel booking website?

I've already booked my flights with Qantas but has been quite hesitant about acommodation.

Any ideas anyone?

Cheers!

I wouldnt book too much too far in advance, just get your first couple of nights sorted and take it from there - much cheaper to do it on the spot.

I've used asiarooms.com in the past and always been pleased.

[rsmith]

What's the best beach to visit in Thailand that is seldom frequented by tourists?

[burton]

While it is quite touristy, Koh Tapu is lovely.

[SarahSkis1984]

Pretty touristy, but if anyone is looking for a resort getaway there's a deal on Groupon for Phuket today...might save you a few dollars!
http://www.groupon.com.au/deals/travelcity/-ccbloomshotel-/715860180

[goheritage]

Thailand is the nice destination for visitors.Relax on the beach beside the warm, turquoise waters of the Gulf of Thailand, or enjoy some of the world's most fantastic scuba adventures among the islands of the Andaman Sea. Thailand is one of the best, most reasonably priced places for a seaside vacation. There are hundreds of beaches to choose from.

[roshnimehra]

I want to know more about thailand, how is the weather and how is that place for honeymoon travellers to stay for 1 or 2 weeks ?

[Goldendaze]

Going to Koh Samui for my honeymoon in about two weeks!! Can't wait!! We're staying at sareeraya villas & suites, should be perfect!! :cool:

[Prawn_86]

Going to Koh Samui for my honeymoon in about two weeks!! Can't wait!! We're staying at sareeraya villas & suites, should be perfect!! :cool:
Make sure you keep us updated Goldendaze :)

[EvansJasmine]

Thailand is undoubtedly amazing country with all the activities it offers: political, commercial, cultural, etc. Plus, it has really beautiful nature.

[EvansJasmine]

All my friends say that it is a great destination and I think it is worth having a vacation there, so would be nice if more people share their experience, please :)!

[voyagevietnam]

you can visit site: vietnamparadisvoyage.com

[EvansJasmine]

Thanks a lot! I'll definitely check it out!

[thanuhak]

The Phuket Electronic Music & Dance Festival will be held on Karon Beach, Phuket on New Year’s Eve.

There will be top acts, hot DJs, and fellow fans from 7 pm on into 2012. Join the competition for the newest, most distinctive artist in the IP DJ Hunt 2011 for cash and prizes: 20,000 baht, 10,000 Baht and 5,000 Baht for the top 3 winners, with prizes from Pioneer DJ.

The Goal of Phuket Electronic Music and Dance Festival 2011 and Creative IP DJ Hunt 2011 Southern Region is to promote electronic music in Thailand, encourage talented young Thai electronic artists and modernize the electronic music industry in Thailand. Winners of IP DJ hunt contest will win 20,000 baht, 10,000 Baht and 5,000 Baht for top 3 winners with prizes from Pioneer DJ.

The 2 day festival will showcase an exciting line up of more than 30 DJs from both Thailand and International. Top Thai DJs are J Monton and Dom Parkorn Lam, Mark Brain, Slick and Domination, winner of the Best Video DJ of the World contest in Dubai 2011.

This is also the first time, that more than 10 top clubs in Phuket participate in the festival.

The Creative IP DJ Hunt will take place on Karon Beach starting 1500 hours on the 30th of December with Award and Opening ceremony at around 2200 hours. Join the New Year 2012 Countdown ceremony on Karon Beach starting 2330 hours.

Fashion TV, the world’s number One fashion and life style channel, also a co-organizer of the event will feature this exciting event through the channel to its audience around the world.

[Pugovka]

Great festival. I think it would be cool! :cool:

[Travelstar600]

hey, i plan to go there in a few month.
as far as security is concerned - any advice?
like places not to go? strange government regulations? stupid laws?
things like that...
thanks in advance

[Samui]

If you like golf as me. Many good golf courses there.:)